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		<title>By: jeff_finley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:heather@gomedia.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heather@gomedia.us&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!&lt;br&gt;Jeff Finley&lt;br&gt;Go Media</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager <a href="mailto:heather@gomedia.us" rel="nofollow">heather@gomedia.us</a>.<br />I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!<br />Jeff Finley<br />Go Media</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me crazy, but I find that Macs slow me down.  I&#039;ve been DTP designing on Macs for the past 2 years, after 8 years on Windows PCs.  Both get the job done, but for me the deal breaker is the keyboard accessible menus on Windows - you can bash Alt + keys to hit menu functions (I mean the ones that *don&#039;t* have keyboard shortcuts) in a fraction of the time it takes to mouse your way through on a Mac.&lt;br&gt;James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me crazy, but I find that Macs slow me down.  I&#39;ve been DTP designing on Macs for the past 2 years, after 8 years on Windows PCs.  Both get the job done, but for me the deal breaker is the keyboard accessible menus on Windows &#8211; you can bash Alt + keys to hit menu functions (I mean the ones that *don&#39;t* have keyboard shortcuts) in a fraction of the time it takes to mouse your way through on a Mac.<br />James</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_finley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:heather@gomedia.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heather@gomedia.us&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!&lt;br&gt;Jeff Finley&lt;br&gt;Go Media</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager <a href="mailto:heather@gomedia.us" rel="nofollow">heather@gomedia.us</a>.<br />I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!<br />Jeff Finley<br />Go Media</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- Buy a Dell. &lt;br&gt;- Get more power, and spend less. &lt;br&gt;- Built on all the same hardware, or better.&lt;br&gt;- They look as good, or better. &lt;br&gt;- Live happy and without need to blog about spending too much cash.&lt;br&gt;- Take your lady out to dinner with the money you saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Buy a Dell. <br />- Get more power, and spend less. <br />- Built on all the same hardware, or better.<br />- They look as good, or better. <br />- Live happy and without need to blog about spending too much cash.<br />- Take your lady out to dinner with the money you saved.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_finley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jarek Tabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarek Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I grow up to add my few words on that topic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m 25, and I&#039;m neither PC nor Mac. That is a statement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Few years I&#039;ve been &quot;playing and working&quot; with Photoshop on Windows. I won&#039;t say on PC, because Apple dropped PowerPC and they are PC too.&lt;br&gt;Since 1 or 2 years I&#039;m thinking a lot about starting computer graphics school (or something similar) to get the needed knowledge about so called design basics. Apart from that I&#039;m working with few clients as a &quot;web designer&quot;.&lt;br&gt;For all years I&#039;ve been using Windows based machine. When my thoughts became closer to design I started to see some pluses in Apple&#039;s vision.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everytime i saw my messy desk with monitor and loud pc i was getting feeling that I&#039;m starting to hate it. In fact I hated it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I was looking at Apple machines and its ascethic aswell beautifull design i started realize that maybe there is some connection apple - (and) - design. I started to feel that it&#039;s ascethic and pure design of computers may inspire me. I always liked clean and minimalistic designs. Apple was exactly what i liked. This summer i bought barely used MacBook (early 2009) and pimped it with 4GB 800Mhz RAM aswell as good 500GB hard drive. &lt;br&gt;I installed all software i use (basicly it&#039;s Photoshop) and started to work. I need to mention that before that i was happy Windows XP and really happy Windows 7 (RC) user.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After 2 months I&#039;m really confused.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In theory faster machine (MacBook) than my desktop isn&#039;t that fast as it should be. Super extra stable OSX (Leopard and Snow Leopard) are not that reliable as they supposed to be. Safari crashes and random thinking umbrella on  Photoshop on relative small files (up to 30-50MB) makes me sick of OSX. Another problem is... java and flash. All Java aswell as Flash applications are reminding me that in MacBook fans can spin really fast (thank God for CoolBook to under-voltage CPU).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I must say that battery life, design, accessibility and usability of MacBook is just outstanding, but... I&#039;m confused. Some of You guys said here that the Output (design) doesn&#039;t  have connection with computer (apple or else) but with Input we give. I must say it&#039;s really, really wise. I do agree with it 100%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still think that OSX is damn good system, same as Apple machines, but the price we have to pay for this is a pain. I just can&#039;t stand that i can do SAME on Windows 7 with same speed and (i would risk to say) reliability as on Mac but for 1/2 or 2/3 of its price.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apple&#039;s philosophy of fighting for clients is great, but times where Apple was a synonym of perfect quality are GONE. Super sophisticated package or Alu unibody case or even OSX are not enough to fight Windows 7 and PC&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;Its 2009 year and Adobe Photoshop CS4, old Mac domain, runs faster on Windows 7 machine (maybe because there is 64bit version) - but this is fact.&lt;br&gt;I would even risk to say that actual Apple sales growth is caused mostly because of iPhone sales. I own one too and i love it, but if all will go this way as it&#039;s now it wont be enough to hold me with Apple any longer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Feel free to flame me or discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I grow up to add my few words on that topic.</p>
<p>I&#39;m 25, and I&#39;m neither PC nor Mac. That is a statement.</p>
<p>Few years I&#39;ve been &#8220;playing and working&#8221; with Photoshop on Windows. I won&#39;t say on PC, because Apple dropped PowerPC and they are PC too.<br />Since 1 or 2 years I&#39;m thinking a lot about starting computer graphics school (or something similar) to get the needed knowledge about so called design basics. Apart from that I&#39;m working with few clients as a &#8220;web designer&#8221;.<br />For all years I&#39;ve been using Windows based machine. When my thoughts became closer to design I started to see some pluses in Apple&#39;s vision.</p>
<p>Everytime i saw my messy desk with monitor and loud pc i was getting feeling that I&#39;m starting to hate it. In fact I hated it.</p>
<p>When I was looking at Apple machines and its ascethic aswell beautifull design i started realize that maybe there is some connection apple &#8211; (and) &#8211; design. I started to feel that it&#39;s ascethic and pure design of computers may inspire me. I always liked clean and minimalistic designs. Apple was exactly what i liked. This summer i bought barely used MacBook (early 2009) and pimped it with 4GB 800Mhz RAM aswell as good 500GB hard drive. <br />I installed all software i use (basicly it&#39;s Photoshop) and started to work. I need to mention that before that i was happy Windows XP and really happy Windows 7 (RC) user.</p>
<p>After 2 months I&#39;m really confused.</p>
<p>In theory faster machine (MacBook) than my desktop isn&#39;t that fast as it should be. Super extra stable OSX (Leopard and Snow Leopard) are not that reliable as they supposed to be. Safari crashes and random thinking umbrella on  Photoshop on relative small files (up to 30-50MB) makes me sick of OSX. Another problem is&#8230; java and flash. All Java aswell as Flash applications are reminding me that in MacBook fans can spin really fast (thank God for CoolBook to under-voltage CPU).</p>
<p>I must say that battery life, design, accessibility and usability of MacBook is just outstanding, but&#8230; I&#39;m confused. Some of You guys said here that the Output (design) doesn&#39;t  have connection with computer (apple or else) but with Input we give. I must say it&#39;s really, really wise. I do agree with it 100%.</p>
<p>I still think that OSX is damn good system, same as Apple machines, but the price we have to pay for this is a pain. I just can&#39;t stand that i can do SAME on Windows 7 with same speed and (i would risk to say) reliability as on Mac but for 1/2 or 2/3 of its price.</p>
<p>Apple&#39;s philosophy of fighting for clients is great, but times where Apple was a synonym of perfect quality are GONE. Super sophisticated package or Alu unibody case or even OSX are not enough to fight Windows 7 and PC&#39;s.<br />Its 2009 year and Adobe Photoshop CS4, old Mac domain, runs faster on Windows 7 machine (maybe because there is 64bit version) &#8211; but this is fact.<br />I would even risk to say that actual Apple sales growth is caused mostly because of iPhone sales. I own one too and i love it, but if all will go this way as it&#39;s now it wont be enough to hold me with Apple any longer.</p>
<p>Feel free to flame me or discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_finley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager <a href="mailto:heather@gomedia.us" rel="nofollow">heather@gomedia.us</a>.<br />I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!<br />Jeff Finley<br />Go Media</p>
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		<title>By: 3kin</title>
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		<dc:creator>3kin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crashes, warnings and lockups. What are/were you running, WinME with Kazaa? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Windows 7 has put an end the MAC propaganda because &quot;it also just works&quot;. Not to mention Ubuntu (it just works too and it&#039;s free).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crashes, warnings and lockups. What are/were you running, WinME with Kazaa? </p>
<p>Windows 7 has put an end the MAC propaganda because &#8220;it also just works&#8221;. Not to mention Ubuntu (it just works too and it&#39;s free).</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_finley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am out of the office on vacation until Monday, October 19th.  If your request is urgent please contact our project manager &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:heather@gomedia.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heather@gomedia.us&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I will be catching up on Monday when I get in, thanks!&lt;br&gt;Jeff Finley&lt;br&gt;Go Media</description>
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		<title>By: marybaum</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How bout a compromise? I buy Apple CPUs - but third-party peripherals, so my maxed-out MBP wasn&#039;t $3500 even in late 2006 - more like $2500, when prices were higher. I do like my skinny Apple keyboard and Mighty Mouse (both wired - cheaper that way, and I can&#039;t lose them on my desk.) Memory is memory, and it has been for the 22 years I&#039;ve been buying it. Same with hard drives, which I double the size of every year after the warranty expires anyway, at $99 a pop or so. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AppleCare is obviously not our speed - though I did spring for it on our new iPhones, which I don&#039;t have the same courage to fix myself. But our version of AppleCare is a set of Torq screwdrivers and good instructions from the web - I replaced my left fan that way a few weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout a compromise? I buy Apple CPUs &#8211; but third-party peripherals, so my maxed-out MBP wasn&#39;t $3500 even in late 2006 &#8211; more like $2500, when prices were higher. I do like my skinny Apple keyboard and Mighty Mouse (both wired &#8211; cheaper that way, and I can&#39;t lose them on my desk.) Memory is memory, and it has been for the 22 years I&#39;ve been buying it. Same with hard drives, which I double the size of every year after the warranty expires anyway, at $99 a pop or so. </p>
<p>AppleCare is obviously not our speed &#8211; though I did spring for it on our new iPhones, which I don&#39;t have the same courage to fix myself. But our version of AppleCare is a set of Torq screwdrivers and good instructions from the web &#8211; I replaced my left fan that way a few weeks ago.</p>
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